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Discussions on future of town - post-Brexit

Reporter: Iram Ramzan
Date online: 27 June 2017

WHAT does the future hold for towns like Oldham post-Brexit?

What will the borough have to offer in terms of education and skills for both young and old?

Those were the pertinent issues raised at a discussion at The Grange Theatre in Oldham.

David Goodhart, head of the demography, immigration and integration unit at the think-tank Policy Exchange, visited the Oldham College venue to discuss his new book The Road To Somewhere.

His book looks into new global politics and populism,which has led to Donald Trump becoming president of the USA and Britain voting to leave the EU on June 23 last year.

In Oldham 61 per cent of people voted to leave the EU, making the town an ideal place for Mr Goodhart to discuss his book.

He said research shows people can be categorised in two groups ­- "Anywheres" and "Somewheres" - which can account for these global trends.

Mr Goodhart said: "It's good to be back in Oldham. It's good to be in a proper 'Leave' town in the North of England. The book is primarily about explaining the kind of political system that led to Brexit, and even Trump.

"You have the 'Anywheres', who are highly educated and mobile. They value openness and autonomy. They have relatively weak group attachment.

"But this group has grown rapidly in the last generation and accounts for 20 to 25 per cent of the population. It completely dominates the public realm and policy across the parties.

"The 'Somewheres' are half the population. They tend to be less well-educated and more attached to particular places. They value security and familiarity.

"Two groups sounds simplistic and binary, but if you read the book there are lights and shades. I have invented the names, but this is all in the data."

Other members of the panel were Prof Andy Westwood, of Manchester University, Prof Ruth Lipton, also of Manchester Univ, Jean-Noel Ezingeard, deputy vice-chancellor of Manchester Metropolitan University, Carolyn Wilkins, chief exec of Oldham Council and Prof Kevin Orr, of Huddersfield University.

The discussion was chaired by Stephen Chalcraft, of law firm sponsor Shakespeare Martineau.

The panel admitted Britain is going through a period of unprecedented change - socially, culturally and economically - and spoke mostly about what role businesses and educational institutions can play in helping all groups of people get a good start in life.


Many believe higher and further education have become homogenised and not enough emphasis has been put on vocational and technical education.

Mr Goodhart also said Brexit could mean reducing the "bloated" financial sector, meaning it would need to focus more on home rather than the big cities abroad, and that the country could become less "London-centric".

The panel also said there need to be initiatives that would mean people do not necessarily have to leave their home town in order to feel they have succeeded in life.

Carolyn Wilkins said there were issues in the book that do resonate with the town. She said the town's image is not helped by having a single, external narrative, citing a recent article in a national newspaper which discussed the town's riots from 16 years ago.

She said: "Some policies and strategies have disadvantaged places like Oldham. Devolution should be about no one size fits all and the need to recognise the strengths and issues in different places.

"Being so close to Manchester city centre is an absolutely positive strength, but it shouldn't be at the expense to the growth of Oldham.

"We don't just want to be a dormitory town. There are opportunities here and we want that plurality. This is a collective endeavour and it needs the help of everyone."

Oldham College principal Alun Francis, one of the event's main organisers, said: "It was a pretty comprehensive debate. There were challenging questions about what places like Oldham need to do."


So a bunch of "Anywheres" have a comprehensive debate. Maybe if an equal number of "somewheres" were invited to this debate, and the "anywheres" actually listened to and thought about what the "somewheres" have to say, then we may get somewhere in Oldham. But most of all a bit more application of the Nolan principles by the council would not go amiss.

Carolyn Wilkins prattles on about what has disadvantaged Oldham. If you had been here more than two minutes you would know the fault lies with the Labour/Liberal run councils the people have had to endure. Until we get councillors more interested in the towns wellbeing more than their own nothing will happen quite the contrary itwill continue its decline.

I think the only word that is relevant to Oldham here is 'disadvantaged' this has always been the case and will remain so wether a book is written about it or they leave the EU. As to compulsory voting it does not work, look at Australia.

You shouldn't have bothered Mr Goodhart!
The lefties in Oldham aren't going to listen to anyone who says their policies might be wrong, even if you are a fellow traveler.
The Left wing denial in them is so absolute they are totally inured to criticism and it has to be the critic who is wrong, not them.
Caroline Wilkins appears to epitomise the inability to see the possibility things might be done differently in her comment.


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