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Police cuts anger

Reporter: Marina Berry
Date online: 21 January 2014

COUNCIL leader Jim McMahon has criticised a plan that will leave Oldham without its current police chief.

Greater Manchester Police is cutting some of its highest-ranking officers to save money - but Councillor McMahon said making one chief superintendent responsible for both Oldham and Tameside will “undo a decade of good work”.

Councillor McMahon said he was disappointed at the worrying lack of consultation with local councils before a decision was made. He has requested an urgent meeting with Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Lloyd, to voice his concerns.

The shock decision was relayed by letter to local authority chief executives by GMP chief constable, Sir Peter Fahy. It means the number of chief superintendents in charge of the 10 divisions of Greatr Manchester will halve..

Tameside and Oldham will be led by Caroline Ball - appointed Oldham’s first female chief supt in 2005 and currently in charge at Tameside.

After four years, Oldham’s current chief supt, Catherine Hankinson, will take over at South Manchester:.

“This is the harsh reality and a sign of the times,” she said.

The chiefs had to make a decision. This is the most sensible way to still manage the risk and demand, yet reduce our numbers.” The change will take effect from March 3.

Councillor McMahon told Mr Lloyd he was puzzled about GMP’s strategic direction: “If the priority is greater partnership working then the police actually need to invest in resources at a senior level, not reduce,” he wrote.

“There is a real danger that the lack of senior leadership linked to local authority boundaries will distance the police, which will undo over a decade of good work.”


These Chief Superintendents don't last long these days. As soon as they get to know the area they get moved on. Long gone are the days when communities knew their local bobby. No wonder the public express less trust in the police than in the past.

So we have a Labour Police commissioner,who has not consulted local authority's. surely it's up to the commissioner to decide the best course of action for his Police force after all that's what he is paid to do.no one will be happy if they loose their chief constable.

Allow me to remind Cllr McMahon that it was his party which left a note at the treasury, and his party which has apologised on several occasions for wrecking the economy.
It's a bit rich to start criticising the people attempting to clear up the mess his colleagues left behind, but I guess that's Labour for you !

The current Chief Constable of Greater Manchester is a political appointment and is going through the motions of a 'police chief' I would guarantee that his knowledge of the Oldham area and its needs are no more than adequate and the female Chief Superintendents will have even less knowledge of their latest appointments. The senior officers at command rank are moved about like chess pieces and their local knowledge is virtually NIL. They never complain, they are very well paid figureheads...!!

We are certainly moving backwards. In the local police reorganisation following the difficulties of 2001, we had a structure where community policing aligned itself with electoral wards with a police inspector for 3 or 4 wards coinciding with the then Area Committees. Each ward had at least 1 dedicated PC and a team of at least 4 PCSOs.

I know......dump Tony Lloyd and bring in at least 1 Chief Super for the waste of money that is spent on a Police Commissioner.

A Long Time ago there were lots of Police officers on foot around Oldham and Manchester in fact all over the country.
I used to be one in North West Manchester.
Then came the PANDA CAR away went many foot beats.
Then came the electronic age and away went more foot
Somewhere in the whole mix of things one central government after another decided that there should be less Regular Police Officers and more PCSOs.
BTW this also has happened in Canada where I live

To be fair one head of policing for Tameside and Oldham should be able to fiddle the crime figures as well as two. As for a lack of funding, the police are well funded, the problem is where all the monies go. There are too many police forces replicating each others capabilities with all the additional costs associated. Moreover, allowing police officers to retire at as young as 48 with a 2/3 final salary pension and large lump sum is the root cause of a lack of monies for frontline policing.

we need more police on the street and less at desks.

Fewer senior officers in the Greater Manchester area is a great way of saving money. You don't need the 12 defined sections of GMP all having different officers.

Senior staff also have bigger pensions so cutting their numbers is a great idea to save money on that too. Local councils beware though!
Do the Greater Manchester councils need to have separate councils?

@Flake - as much as you like to constantly make comment on the infamous "note", why do you always fail to comment on the fact the the current Coalitions austerity programme is not working? These draconian cuts to councils, police, fire etc are not making a difference but causing more problems! Not a single financial promise they made has been met. Need to stop looking at the past and look what's happening now

Are there any real benefits of having a chief super for each town? What do they actually bring to the table? No sooner is one appointed then they are moved on elsewhere. Waste of money along with the whole PCSO failure. We see very few officers on our streets these days yet the budget always appears available to chase up name callers on the likes of twitter. The whole thing needs a fresh start.

Police pensions (2.5 Billion currently)are still a massive drain on the finances. The average annual police officer pension is £15,600 compared with £7,500 for an NHS worker, £8,800 for the Armed forces. Further to that, the average officer spends more time in retirement than in work

@JMTS. How are things going backwards? Stripping out top heavy, wasteful and ineffective bureaucracy is a positive move.

Your last Labour lot politicised and bought the police like never before.

dempsey you are obviously unaware with regards the pension schemes, the armed forces dont contribute anything towards theres ( and rightly so and should be more than it is) wheras the NHS pay between 7 and 9 percent,( and again they should also benefit more at the end of there careers) currently police officers pay 13.5 percent rising to 15 percent !! which on average is £380 to £430 per month, hence why the police pension is as "large" as it is.


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