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Clerics who hailed killer at mosque

Reporter: Iram Ramzan
Date online: 16 August 2016

CONTROVERSIAL Pakistani clerics who praised an Islamist assassin in Pakistan were allowed to speak at a mosque in Oldham last week.

Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman and Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman spoke to a large gathering at Madina Mosque and Islamic Centre in Clydesdale Street, Coppice, last Thursday and Friday as part of their seven-week UK tour, Sacred Journey, which runs until September 4.

After Oldham they went on to speak at mosques in Rochdale and Rotherham

The clerics led a high-profile campaign in Pakistan in praise of Mumtaz Qadri, who was executed in January after murdering Pakistani politician Salman Taseer in 2011 for opposing Pakistan's strict blasphemy laws.

Qadri had claimed it was his religious duty to kill the Punjab governor.

Funeral
In a social media post after Qadri's execution, Haseeb ur Rehman said: "Every person who loves Islam and Prophet is in grief for the martyrdom of Mumtaz Qadri."

Several videos on YouTube showed the clerics urging people to attend Qadri's funeral, which they also attended in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.

They repeatedly referred to Qadri as "shaheed" (martyr).

Between 15,000 and 100,000 people attended Qadri's funeral, shrieking slogans such as "Qadri, your blood will bring the revolution" and "The punishment for a blasphemer is beheading".

Fierce riots ensued in Pakistan after Qadri's execution.

Last month, after arriving in the UK, Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman was welcomed at Lambeth Palace by Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby.

The pair discussed subjects including countering "the narrative of extremism and terrorism" and interfaith relations.

Shahbaz Taseer, whose father was murdered by Qadri, criticised British authorities for allowing the clerics into the country.

He told a newspaper: "These people teach murder and hate. For me personally I find it sad that a country like England would allow cowards like these men in.

"It's countries like the UK and the US that claim they are leading the way in the war against terror [and] setting a standard. Why are they allowing people [in] that give fuel to the fire they are fighting against?"

The Home Secretary has the power to ban people from the UK if their presence is deemed to not be "conducive to the public good."

Former Home Secretary and now Prime Minister Theresa May used these powers to ban US bloggers Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller from entering the country, as well as controversial Islamist preacher Zakir Naik.

Geller and Spencer co-founded anti-Muslim group Stop Islamisation of America.

Venues

The Chronicle spoke to imam Zahoor Chishti, from Madina Mosque and Islamic Centre in Coppice.

He said the event was not organised by the mosque itself but by the clerics' team. He said he did not know who approved the decision for the pair to speak at the mosque.

Speaking about the two clerics, imam Chishti said: "They have got hundreds of thousands of followers in the UK.

"Several followers and disciples of theirs contact people and ask if they could use their venues.

"If they are approved it's got nothing to do with the imam or preachers here.

"I was at the event for a short while, just to show my face.

"It looks very bad in the community if the imam is not there."

When asked if he was aware of the clerics' comments about Qadri, he added: "On a personal level I didn't know what they believe.

"When I found out I was upset. I think it was really upsetting and wrong.

"They come to the UK every year and give messages of love, so that's why they're booked on that basis.

"I think this will change how things are organised at the mosque. They should take better precautionary measures."

Comments

Very, very worrying. What does Teresa May have to say? Is this man not inciting religious hatred, in plain sight, in the midst of OUR community? Shocking.

I suspect that the most outspoken critics of this odious individual will come from the Muslim community itself.

If this had been the other way around of course and someone white had made these comments, their feet would not have touched, with Adolf Lloyds Political Correctness Enforcement Squad racing to change with section 5 and section 127 of the communications act.

How odd that these clerics were allowed into the country by the tory government whose much vaunted anti-terror policies include attempting to vet TV programmes before broadcast, blanket state surveillance of internet use, withdrawal from the European Convention of Human Rights and a 20% cut in the police budget.
A cynic might assume that they were allowed in specifically to divide the population, leaving the ruling elite free to pursue their goal of ultimate control.

How do chronicle know all this ? once again people putting tension towards the Muslims and islam. The mosque never teaches anyone wrong or to go out side and make crimes for ourself..

Your could not make it up. No matter who says what under these circumstances, two Islamist hotheads have been allowed to 'talk' at an Oldham mosque. Where do you draw the line? It is hard to believe that after so much terror in Europe a section of the Oldham Asians have deemed that they can invite who they want and do not give a fig about the continuing troubles surrounding these issues. Time for the new Home Secretary to earn her pay!

Qadri was loved in pakistan, but we are England. I hope you get me here nobody wants to know about Qadri and what he did. We dont want a bad name here for muslims.

I'm all for freedom of speech but .... this is not helpful and inflammatory it will only increase tensions in an already fragile community of Oldham

People like this should not be allowed in the country let alone be given a platform. Imam Chishti should have stayed away and made it clear that he was doing so to show her disagrees with what was being said.

to allow these people into the country is an absolute disgrace.to allow them to speak in sensitive areas such as oldham rochdale and rotherham is equally distasteful. they condone violence so why are they allowed to speak in so called moderate mosques.to speak in towns with high rates of grooming and paeodophilia is abhorrent

Such a shame that a 21st century Oldham just a 30 minute tram ride from Manchester, the 2016 European City of Science, rings with these all but fictitious words such as sacred, prophets, martys & disciples. The local government in Oldham have neither the will nor courage to challenge any of the multi-faith deity delusionals who use these words to excuse the followers of archaic superstition their non-conformity, misogyny and inherent prejudice.

Kick him out not need here Sick of these people drumming Islam down my throat ..

And people go to listen to this. I'll give a clue to this, they don't heckle I'll bet.

Believe it or not wildy it's the far left civil service which makes these judgements and not the Tory government, although Teresa May was directly involved in the Anti Semitic banning of truth speaker Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, on the ground that they supported the state of Israel !
If Muslims were subjected to the same laws as the rest of us, the Qur'an would be banned as a hate crime, more proof of the double standards, and that Hate laws should be scrapped !

The presence of Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman & Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman in the UK does not represent a threat to our countries national security or to our communities. They are not spreading hate with their speeches. If they do I reassure you all they will be debarred once we become aware of it. Our mosques do not give a platform to anybody to express or preach hatred or violence. There is zero tolerance for this.

Mumtaz Qadri is a murderer who thought he was above the law in Pakistan.Murdering people in the name of any religion is unacceptable. Unless forgiven by God, murdering a person is a great sin that brings torment in Hell. A religious person who has fear of God can never commit such an act.Mumtaz Qadri wasn’t truly religious and the murder he committed is an act bereft of any moral justification.He has nothing to do with Muslims & Islam worldwide and here in Oldham too.

We haven't seen anything yet. The libertarians have their wish come true and now Britain must face the consequences.

come on Oldham people, cant you see where your elected leaders loyalties lie? Our fore fathers would be turning in their graves if they could see what you have become.

absolute disgrace that this was allowed in this town with all that has gone on in the past

@Saheeduk, if Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman and Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman were spreading hate within our communities how would we, non muslims, know? You are telling us they have cleaned up their act for the UK? They only spread hate in Pakistan? Most of us are very suspicious when these types of characters are in our town.

Flake - your rants are more incoherent by the day, the Home Secretary has the power to ban 'undesirable individuals' from these shores, as you admit in your post when May rightfully banned the fascist Israeli government apologists Spencer & Geller. Your lame attempt to shift blame not only betrays your lack of intelligence but more tellingly your abhorrent racism. Geller 7 Spencer were invited by the EDL to attend their inflammatory march through Woolwich.
"Truth Speakers?" Dear God.

Good to see that Amjan Chowdhry will be receiving his just deserts, at least that's one clown off the streets for a while.

saheeduk how typical of a muslim to use the old it aint nothing to do with islam..it has everything to do with islam. all muslims read the same book so are implicit by belief.there is proof these so called clerics are spreading hate so why do you defend them .there should be zero tolerance to these morons trying to ram islam down peoples throats.much like you are doing saheeduk

To quote Saheeduk 'Unless forgiven by God, murdering a person is a great sin that brings torment in Hell.'

Well, that really does sum it all up! All murder of fellow person is evil. These idiots beleive their fairytale is telling them to go and kill people so would forgive them.

The modern world has no need for religion any more, less so one many years behind the rest in so many ways.

Lets remove labels to alleviate claims of racism. Person A commits a murder in the name of his religious beliefs. Persons B and C refute this as a crime and believe the man is a martyr to his faith, a higher law than that of man. Members of a section of the Oldham community support persons B and C so much that they invite them to speak at their property. This is not acceptable and should not be allowed and clearly demonstrates this groups belief that their law is greater than that of the realm.

 

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